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Title: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: TonyBClubManager on July 11, 2011, 09:17:43 pm
The Udine show has been cancelled. Please seek refunds at point of ticket purchase. No details were given to me in the email from the tour production as to the reason for the cancellation.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Mellenfan71 on July 11, 2011, 09:56:25 pm
Bummer.

His Italy show the other night had 800 people in a 2300 capacity.



Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: fingam on July 12, 2011, 01:37:56 am
Bummer.

His Italy show the other night had 800 people in a 2300 capacity.



800 people bored by the boring & soporific documentary...


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update - Thisi is what happened
Post by: retinete32 on July 12, 2011, 02:05:54 am
Mr. Mellencamp have no respect for people who bought tix in advance, no one refund pre sell.I lost aronud 35$ thanks to Mr. Mellencamp. Mr. Mellencamp was not happy with 1st italian date due to dust around the place..?!.. He and his band payed 18 songs, other European shows ended up with 21 songs. Day after in Rome, as usual 75 minutes of documentary... people pay to see live music not for the cinema.., Mr. Mellencamp showed up and  played only 70 MINUTES!! So Italian promoter at the end of the show, rushed to the backstage just asked for a little bit of respect for crowd..Mr. Mellencamp reply??!! Here we go:" I won't go to Udine for my last Italian show"..That's what really happened.This was the first italian tour of Mr. Mellencamp in his whole career, I hope do not see around such a guy..we need to see live act of serious musician player, Mr. Mellencamp has to learn a lot from professional musician as Bruce Springsteen maybe..People is very angry with Mr. Mellencamp and I do not think will ever buy any cd's again. Mr Mellencamp for this people does not exist no more. Rest In peace.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: fingam on July 12, 2011, 04:26:52 am
I heard that many italian angry fans will go to the last show in Switzerland to express their feelings "politely"





Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Mellenfan71 on July 12, 2011, 07:59:17 am
Quote
Italian promoter at the end of the show, rushed to the backstage just asked for a little bit of respect for crowd..Mr. Mellencamp reply??!! Here we go:" I won't go to Udine for my last Italian show"..That's what really happened

You were backstage?


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: francesca on July 12, 2011, 08:48:56 am
....and the respect for the artist and His real fans???


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: afc on July 12, 2011, 09:13:19 am
I am very disappointed to read the posts....... I've been waiting more than 20 years, I've been listening to Jack and Diane and I need a lover for many years since 1979....... John has lost my trust and respect.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 12, 2011, 09:16:01 am
....and the respect for the artist and His real fans???
Udine concert has been canceled because John and his family have chosen to visit Rome :D:

http://www.mellencamp.com/forum/index.php?topic=1308.0

Forgive my joke. I totally agree with you, Francesca. I hope that the matter was a loss of voice or a sudden Dave Clarks' tendonitis ;)

I don't want to think that the real reason was because there was a little number of audience in Udine too.
By the way, in Rome an 800 audience attended the show. 


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 12, 2011, 09:25:21 am
I am very disappointed to read the posts....... I've been waiting more than 20 years, I've been listening to Jack and Diane and I need a lover for many years since 1979....... John has lost my trust and respect.
Some people ain't no damn good
You can't trust 'em, you can't love em
No good deed goes unpunished
And I don't mind being their whipping boy
I've had that pleasure for years and years
No, no I never was a sinner-tell me what else can I do
Second best is what you get-till you learn to bend this rules
Time respects no person-what you lift up must fall
They're waiting outside-to claim my crumblin' wallsSome people say I'm obnoxious and lazy
That I'm uneducated and my opinipn means nothin'
But I know I'm a real good dancer
Don't need to look over my shoulder to see what I'm after
Everybody's got their problems-ain't no new news here
I'm the same old trouble you've been having for years
Don't confuse the problem with the issue, girl,
'Cause it's perfectly clear

Is a man the song he sings?
Sometimes yes. Little Bastard is one of them.
And I love him for this reason.
Come on everybody here in Italy: Let's invade Zurich and let him know we still love him for who he is. Is he or not a little bastard? ;)


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: francesca on July 12, 2011, 10:13:26 am
Is a man the song he sings?
Sometimes yes. Little Bastard is one of them.
And I love him for this reason.
Come on everybody here in Italy: Let's invade Zurich and let him know we still love him for who he is. Is he or not a little bastard? ;)


I'm agree with you. His London show was GREAT, and Paris too....let's go to Zurich ;D


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Mellenfan71 on July 12, 2011, 01:15:52 pm
Is a man the song he sings?
Sometimes yes. Little Bastard is one of them.
And I love him for this reason.
Come on everybody here in Italy: Let's invade Zurich and let him know we still love him for who he is. Is he or not a little bastard? ;)


I'm agree with you. His London show was GREAT, and Paris too....let's go to Zurich ;D


Looks like the only problems were the Italy shows (and the one German show)  The other dates seem to have went great


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: pamahe on July 12, 2011, 03:10:16 pm
I saw John in Munich, still great but much too late;-)
Now i am close to Venice in vacation and wanred to go to Udine, I feel very sad.
Why do you make this with your fans? After 25 years of waiting ,there ar maybe not thousends of fans but the real one would be there.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: fingam on July 12, 2011, 03:26:32 pm
I was at the Vigevano show and I heard some friends who were in Rome two days later and it's clear that non-english speaking fans really don't care about the movie. Too long, to slow and without any subtitles...useless in a single word.
In any case the show wasn't so bad but it wasn't stellar too. It looked like JM was there only to do his duty without any interest in the people in front of him. People who waited MANY years for a Mellencamp show, people who waited two, three o more hours to have an aseptic and short show. A sort of a second movie but in 3D.

I think that for the next tour Mr Mellencamp should not consider to come back to Italy. If you don't respect your audience, if you don't give them a solid show, you lost them. And Mr Mellencamp lost everything in Italy.  Game over.



Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: richm752 on July 12, 2011, 03:54:30 pm
I bet the food was good.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: jakesmom204 on July 12, 2011, 05:06:05 pm
Just a thought, but don't you think the biggest part of this whole thing might be the language barrier?  I saw this tour near the beginning and thought it was the best that I have seen.  And this was my 28th show over 17 years. But a very big part of this show had to do with the songs and the stories behind them and this might have been a very difficult task to present with the same effect to a foreign audience. There were funny and touching stories but the language issues might have made it difficult for JM and the fans both.  It was hard enough to listen to the stories at my shows with folks screaming out their requests.  Imagine trying to tell a story or joke to someone who may know your songs, but not understand the conversation you are having. It seems that is a big problem with the movie at these recent shows, and we all know how unlikely it is for JM to change the entire format of a show during a leg of a tour.  Cut out most of the stories and conversation and you're left with a much shorter show. As much as I loved this new show, it seems that the European audiences were expecting more of the greatest hits shows from the past 20 years, and it's hard to blame them when it's been so long. 

Anyway, just my 2 cents.
 


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: susan_shanks on July 12, 2011, 06:56:47 pm
I bet the food was good.

Olive Garden is pretty good. hehehe
BTW, I agree about the language barrier.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: fingam on July 13, 2011, 03:12:17 am
In Europe there are dozens of english speaking singers/bands touring every year and they usually fill every single seat from small clubs to theaters, arenas and stadiums.

Mr Mellencamp sings in English (or in american English if you prefer) not in an old Mongolian language, so the language barrier is only in his mind. He had to learn how to report with  international fans but he failed.

Next time, please phone your colleague in New Jersey for some advice.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 13, 2011, 03:16:01 am
if you don't give them a solid show, you lost them. And Mr Mellencamp lost everything in Italy.  Game over.


Not me... but I'm an english speaking italian fan!!!!  :D :D :D

I guess the problem was the documentary which was too long compared to the live show.
Anyway I liked the concert. ;)


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: turmbird on July 13, 2011, 08:19:30 pm
I totally agree with jakesmom204. many people here think they understand the music when they can sing along with the refrain, but they dont seem to get the message. the audience in london totally different reacted to the movie and also interacted to the songs in contrast to the continental audiences i experienced.

today´s show in zürich clearly showed that it´s the italians who are to blame and not John. without decent organisation no good concerts.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 14, 2011, 03:16:22 am
without decent organisation no good concerts.
You're damn right.


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: LittleStevenMilano on July 14, 2011, 05:09:37 am
I totally agree with jakesmom204. many people here think they understand the music when they can sing along with the refrain, but they dont seem to get the message. the audience in london totally different reacted to the movie and also interacted to the songs in contrast to the continental audiences i experienced.

today´s show in zürich clearly showed that it´s the italians who are to blame and not John. without decent organisation no good concerts.


I don't agree, anyway my two cent on my one and only show with John (Vigevano)

- I enjoyed the show on overall
- I waited 39 years for this show to happen in my country, after hearing Jack&Diane on a FM station somewhere in the states in 1982. Maybe the expectation were too high
- I (still) consider John a great artist/musician but something went wrong here in Italy, if we read what happened; still we are not aware of “what” was wrong
- I appreciated John latest wosk, including NO BETTER THAN THIS and I was not expecting a greatest hits tour, only a “whatever” but played with heart and soul; John puts his heart in his songs, sometimes you didn’t notice too much
- My view of John on stage was like he was tired or thinking to something (unpleasant) else, what?
- The show was somehow disappointing, but we had some very high peaks during the shows with very good music
- I did enjoy the docu/film, but clearly this was too long (before a show) and became an obstacle to audience who wanted live music; besides languiage, maybe a 30 minutes abstract (without live songs you were going to hear in minutes) with italian subtitles OR introduced by a brief explanation could have been better..especially if you were standing unseated since 6.00 pm...until 10:30 before starting
- We Italians have many things to be blamed for, not  on how we receive bands and artist from abroad; among dozen of artists playing small clubs (see for instance a great person and musician such as Joe D’Urso, which of course can’t be compared to John but I like the way he is “acting” ) they play hard and at 110% in front of small audience, but you never come out from the show “unsatisfied”
- UDINE cancellation seems like Bonaparte's defeat in Waterloo..what  is wrong with us?
Besides the show itself, which will be in my heart in any case, it seems that first and only Italian tour became a nightmare, still we do not have an official statement from the entourage, and we are reading about good shows everywhere else...


Here's one of my picture taken on July 9th, thanks John & the band for coming, I fear there will not be anothjer chance soon, unfortunately
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9371/p1180206.jpg)


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 14, 2011, 07:06:43 am
here's one of my picture taken on July 9th:
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9371/p1180206.jpg)
A very beautiful snapshot. I agree with you about your post but in Rome many fans expected at least 2 or 3 songs more.
A question: are you the famous "Little Steven" from the Loose Ends forum??
If yes, I'm Quinn Eskimo and I appreciate that that you are a JM's fan too.
 ;)


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: LittleStevenMilano on July 14, 2011, 09:31:58 am
A very beautiful snapshot. I agree with you about your post but in Rome many fans expected at least 2 or 3 songs more.
A question: are you the famous "Little Steven" from the Loose Ends forum??
If yes, I'm Quinn Eskimo and I appreciate that that you are a JM's fan too.
 ;)

nope, I am LittleStevenMilano/Mila almost everywhere in the Bruce world from BTX to GL etc, now "retired"  :), if you mean italian forum this "LittleSteven" is someone else, if you mean BTX either, by the way glad to hear from you and glad to have seen John at last


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: twelve on July 14, 2011, 04:05:14 pm
30 year I waiting for JM to see his live show,250 km in one way to Udine and at end  concert is canceld.Until today  nobody know why,from evrybody silence.This is not respect for your Fan dera J.Mellencam,this is not proffesional, in my "concert life" over  34 year,nobody  canceld concert without reson.Dear Mellencamp your are in Hall of Fame you must play for 1.not only for 10000 fan, is this fan pay ticket.I drive 500 km to see this concert and nothing,this evening in Udine I was very angry.Around me in Udine people from Slovenia,Croatia and one man from  Sweden who come in Udine just to see Mellencamp. Just becouse this



Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 15, 2011, 03:30:47 am
I heard that many italian angry fans will go to the last show in Switzerland to express their feelings "politely"
RS Gold (http://www.4rsgold.com/)
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I can talk about myself. I was there to enjoy another rockin' Mellencamp's show.
I didn't see angry Italian fans hanging baseball bats.  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: nikawa on July 15, 2011, 11:01:42 am
I heard that many italian angry fans will go to the last show in Switzerland to express their feelings "politely"
RS Gold (http://www.4rsgold.com/)
Buy RS Gold (http://www.4rsgold.com/)
Cheap RS Gold (http://www.4rsgold.com/)
I can talk about myself. I was there to enjoy another rockin' Mellencamp's show.
I didn't see angry Italian fans hanging baseball bats.  :D :D :D



LIFE GOES ON....THE LITTLE BASTARD BECOMES A GREAT FIJO DE NA' MIGN.TTA


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: crock61 on July 16, 2011, 04:05:50 am
you're right
forget this "artist"
last night great concert with a true artist for italian farmers with nose rings
JOE ELY
.... and a great guitar player ... probably the best .... David Grissom
do you remember???
.... forget Mellencamp ... does not deserve anything
i'am another italian with nose rings.....



Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 18, 2011, 08:08:34 am
you're right
forget this "artist"
last night great concert with a true artist for italian farmers with nose rings
JOE ELY
.... and a great guitar player ... probably the best .... David Grissom
do you remember???

Great Joe Ely.... I've seen him many years ago at Big Mama, in Rome, the Roman house of blues where I saw artists like Calvin Russel, Dave Alvin and many others (and where I too had the privilege to play).
Great artist and what to say about Dave Grissom? One of the best guitar players I've ever seen (I still remember the great session I did in London, during the Whenever we wanted tour). Hats off to them!!! ;)


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Decom on July 18, 2011, 03:50:03 pm
I see John in Paris and was great, and also in Vigevano, great too...without 3 song on the set...but was great too !!! I've waited him for a long long time,and just the moment when he came out on the stage was enough to think that I've spent my money well. I think that in Italy there was not enough person that waited for him like a lot that waited someone like Springsteen, ... I feel this,and I think He feel too...


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: Lynyrd1967 on July 19, 2011, 03:24:13 am
I see John in Paris and was great, and also in Vigevano, great too...without 3 song on the set...but was great too !!! I've waited him for a long long time,and just the moment when he came out on the stage was enough to think that I've spent my money well. I think that in Italy there was not enough person that waited for him like a lot that waited someone like Springsteen, ... I feel this,and I think He feel too...

Joe & Dave in Italy


Title: Re: Udine, IT Show Update
Post by: zvonko on July 27, 2011, 02:17:16 am
Still very disapointed about canceled show in Udine. For emotional compensation I bought box set On the Rural Route 7609 to have something to listen to to the end of the summer. I am also the fan of Bob Dylan, but Bob is around almost every year (saw him seven times not including Udine because the show was cancelelled in 2003 because of heavy rain in the evening of the concert). Mr. Mellencamp is not around so ofen so it is a pity.