I am very disappointed to read the posts....... I've been waiting more than 20 years, I've been listening to Jack and Diane and I need a lover for many years since 1979....... John has lost my trust and respect.

Some people ain't no damn good
You can't trust 'em, you can't love em
No good deed goes unpunished
And I don't mind being their whipping boy
I've had that pleasure for years and years
No, no I never was a sinner-tell me what else can I do
Second best is what you get-till you learn to bend this rules
Time respects no person-what you lift up must fall
They're waiting outside-to claim my crumblin' wallsSome people say I'm obnoxious and lazy
That I'm uneducated and my opinipn means nothin'
But I know I'm a real good dancer
Don't need to look over my shoulder to see what I'm after
Everybody's got their problems-ain't no new news here
I'm the same old trouble you've been having for years
Don't confuse the problem with the issue, girl,
'Cause it's perfectly clear
Is a man the song he sings?
Sometimes yes. Little Bastard is one of them.
And I love him for this reason.
Come on everybody here in Italy: Let's invade Zurich and let him know we still love him for who he is. Is he or not a little bastard?

....and the respect for the artist and His real fans???

Udine concert has been canceled because John and his family have chosen to visit Rome :

http://www.mellencamp.com/forum/index.php?topic=1308.0

Forgive my joke. I totally agree with you, Francesca. I hope that the matter was a loss of voice or a sudden Dave Clarks' tendonitis

I don't want to think that the real reason was because there was a little number of audience in Udine too.
By the way, in Rome an 800 audience attended the show. 

Just want to add my two cents to ths discussion: I am a long time italian fan and I was at the concert in Rome,  my 7th Mellencamp gig in my music listener career. I've seen him playing in Bloomington, in Cleveland, at the Farm Aid so I think I have a "benchmark" to compare last night experience at the Auditorium.

First of all who says that maybe there was a "curfew" problem is absolutely right but the curfew time is set at midnight and he finished well before that time.

The venue: the Auditorium's Cavea is a wonderful space right under the Auditorium's domes built by Renzo Piano. It's an excellent, albeit not huge, place to play and listen music. Several international artists play there every summer without complaining. So venue was not a factor.

The audience: I guess not everybody was aware of the way this tour was conceived. Some people tought they were going to listen to the 80's Mellencamp 30 years after. Shame on them but also shame to the organization who is responsible for the less than impressive number of people that gathered for the show. I've seen no billboards in the city, heard no radio advertising, the press simply ignored the concert. In fact the weekly local guide to the events taking place in Rome, published by the most important italian newspaper "La Repubblica", at the day Sunday July 10th they basically ignored the event and suggested the Cindy Lauper concert that took place on the same venue the day after!

The movie: while I've found the movie very interesting I'm also puzzled by the choice. First because you can't show a documentary without subtitles in a latin country. That's what fuelled the booing from some of the people. A behaviour  unexcusable and unpolite but not totally unpredictable.
But the real drag of the movie is that it basically played to the audience the same songs they were going to listen live! I can't believe nobody in the management noticed this...

The concert: I was totally satisfied by the show, the new versions of many songs we were used to listen in another "dress" but yes, the setlist felt short and not because JM is not entitled to cut his performance shorter but because the concert ended when the audience was starting to have fun.

The attitude: Mellencamp is not a "crowd pleaser", this is widely know. Even in different situations I've never heard him say to the public more than a few "thank you". But Sunday night he was clearly pissed off. Something must have happened otherwise I couldn't imagine him not addressing the crowd of a city where he never played.

To sum up I think of this as a wasted opportunity. JM had the chance to make himself know in a country where he never played, to start a link or quoting his own words: "to have fun and maybe have something that somebody might discover".

In the end HE was not discovered by the italian audience, and this for me, an italian that discovered him long time ago and who knows his talent is a deep sorrow.

Edoardo

PS my review of the concert, in italian, is in my blog : Cronosisma http://wp.me/pPm70-gh

Ciao Edoardo. Grazie. thanks for your post. I totally agree with your point of view, with the exception for your opinion on the roman location, the Cavea, expecially if comparaded to places like the Apollo in London or the Olympia in Paris.

Anyway, every single word you wrote is my opinion too. Usless to say I am and I will always be a JM's fan, though I've been just a little bit disappointed by the leght of his concert in Rome.

A great concert, indeed.

For the interested ones I've posted some photos about John, Meg and John's family as simple tourists in my wonderful hometown.
Alessandro

I guess it's enough.
In these photos you can see John, Meg and John's family visiting the Vatican Museums and romantically admiring Fontana de' Trevi.
I hope they've enjoyed my hometown.
 

Other photos.

Familiar snapeshots of a journey to Rome, Italy.

Forgot to post the tracklist.
1) Authority Song
2) No One Cares About Me,
3) John Cockers
4) Walk Tall
5) Check It Out
6) Save Some Time To Dream
7) Cherry Bomb
Jack and Diane
9) Jackie Brown
10)Longest Days
11)Small Town
12)Rain On The Scarecrow
13)Crumbling Down
14)If I Die Sudden
15)Pink Houses
16)Rock in the USA

Hi everybody.
I didn't want to feed an angry discussion.
I have appreciated the movie and the concert too.
I'm just saying that I consider the live act too short.
I didn't expect the old hits because I guess to know JM's attitude and I feel confident with it because I got used with Bob Dylan, who is very worse than John.
It's a matter of fact that JM doesn't like Italy. Udine cancellation is the main prove to this.
John could have imagined that he's that famous here buy the moment he never did a concert in Italy for about 35 years of his great career.
But the few audiences he got here are really his fans who never had the chanche to see one of his live shows (I don't talk about myself 'cause I did).
If I could walk in his shoes I would remember this and I would make the Italian audience sweat for 2 hours at least dancing with my music.
I'm trying to say to John, with the real affection of a not famous songwriter: remember, it's only Rock'n'Roll, don't take it so seriously. Though we were few to come and see him, we were so damn good.
So the next time you'll come and do a show here in Rome (I reallly hope I will) make us dance the night away, because after the show we're gonna be all Jack and Diane, trying to do the best we can to live a life of bills, thrills and pills that kill.
I don't wanna be dramatic, I loved the even itself but please, all of you, American rock'n'rollers who are reading me now: for almost everybody here it was the first time we had the chance to see him live in 35 years. So try to walk in our shoes for a little while.
Hope you understand the disappointment we're talking about here.
Bye to everybody and thanks 4 yer understanding.
Keep on rocking!

So happy for you to finally see JM in your homeland, but sorry to hear that it wasn't all a positive experience.

Just a thought......if it was an outdoor venue and they had to wait for the sun to go down before starting the movie, would there have been a curfew?  I know a lot of local authorities have noise restrictions, so maybe this is the reason the show was so much shorter than they have been.

I thought about it and I guess you're right. That's why I call into question the local promotion. If this was the problem (the curefew you're writing about), maybe the local promoters and John's tour staff could have chosen not to project the movie to leave more space to the live act.
Anyway... let's look forward now. I'm gonna listen to the Lonesome Jubilee and I'll look back to my yesterday's meeting with Mike Wanchic during the sound check.
I'm a guitar player too. What else better could have happened to me? Maybe singing R.O.C.K. in USA with John himself!!!! 

 

so the audience became impatient and started whistling and "booing". What a sin. They didn't want to watch the movie at all.
I understand them but I can't justify them

Just a guess, But I gather when John hears booing he's not gonna go on stage in the best mood.



You might be right but you too understand that Italian fans didn't wait 30 years just to see a 1 hour and 15 minutes movie, waiting patiently, after the projection, the dismantling of the movie screen and a drum leathers tuning. I liked the movie and the felling I guess JM intended to express in it ( I'm a first hour fan) but I can understand people who want to partecipate to a live music event and pay for this 65€ (not little money for common people who like R'n'R considering the hard times we're living in the world nowdays) and expect to see a live R'n'R show.
Honestly I suggest John to get back to the roots of American music with a 2 hours live concert showing us what a kinda fella he is and leave to each of his fans to buy a good "It's about you" DVD movie. I surely would just the way I did with the luxury edition of "On the Rural Route".
But when people go to a live show, as any musician knows (me too), they expect to scream their souls out in a live concert. In other case any musician can deserve people booing. I'm sorry to say that, John isn't immune to this rule.
 

I feel so sorry for you. According to a fan who went to the show the night before he played there also only for 70 minutes. That is shame!

By the way: I used to have that same T-Shirt from the "Whemever we wanted tour 1992"! I threw it away a few years ago, don´t ask me why!

It seems that JM doesn´t care at all about anything and anyone but himself. That is really sad.

I don't see it in your pessimistic way.
I guess there were some negative cohincidences which played against the event.
The location, the lacal promotion, maybe personal prejudices about Italian audience. I don't know.
I just would let John know that, though he didn't came in Italy for more that 30 years, there are many loyal Italian fans who love him and his music. I don't want to criticize the man behind the artist.
Everybody may have a bad day.
I'm talking about the 44 years old young lion who waits for this moment a whole life and the whole matter leaves me like I had a "coitus interruptus".
That's all.
Long live John Mellencam and his music.

First of all: I'm a Mellencamp fan since I was 14. Now I'm 44.
Second thing: I'm Italian, from Rome and, as everybody knows,  it has been the first time for me, since I listen to John's music, that I have the chance to see him in Italy on tour.
I've seen him at the Wembley Arena in 1992 (the Whenever we wanted Tour) and so I was wearing proudly a black official t-shirt of that tour (I'm proud to say I was the one and only).
I guess Mike Wanchic recognized that t-shirt, when I met him yesterday at the sound check. He was embracing one  of his beautiful Gretsch guitars (looked like a G6112 Chet Atkins).
I was so excited that I couldn't even talk.
But... let's talk about the concert.
The location is nothing special (the Cavea, a small open space for about 3000 people) so we had to wait until 9.20 p.m. to see the programmed movie after sundown.
The event hasn't been a sold-out. Maybe the local promoter didn't make a good job, I don't know.
Very few people had the opportunity to understand the meaning of the film (Italians are not generally confident with English speaking).
No subtitles, no translation.... so the audience became impatient and started whistling and "booing". What a sin. They didn't want to watch the movie at all.
I understand them but I can't justify them.
In my opinion that movie intended to report a "coming back to the roots of American culture and music": it's exactily what JM does in every artistic project so I was glad, as a musician, to understand what does it mean, for an American artist, recording with the original analog equipment Elvis used before him at the Sun Studios in Memphis TN. I'd give a leg or a arm to feel that sensation of pure R'n'R.
The movie showed me why I love JM's music so much, the same way I love Woody Ghutrie, Bob Dylan, Bob Seger, Tom Petty and many others.
When I listen to "Small town" and "Rain on the scarecrow" I understand the almost "religious" love John feels for the "simple man who pays the bills and the pills that kill".

BUT!
ONE HOUR AND TEN MINUTES OF LIVE PLAYED MUSIC the first time he comes to Rome....
I must admit, by the moment I'm a Little Bastard too: I am disappointed.
John has not communicated with the audience but with his songs. Not a word except for the lyrics of his songs he have sung.
To me, the concert had his best moments when he has played acoustic: Yeah, He's still a young lion (the same way I wanna be) and I'm proud to be a fan of his and to say that he influenced me and my music since a kid of 14 years old listened to him for the first time on a rock'n'roll station.
But the audience wasn't me and they warmed up jumping from their seats only at the end, when the band started "Crumbling down", running down under the stage (I did it too).
After that song... "R.O.C.K. in the USA" and he flew away with his band!!!
After 1 hour and 10 minutes.
I don't know but I felt like there was something between him and the audience... I felt like in John's heart no spark could or would start the fire of a new love for a new audience.
He did his show and goodbye (without saying that neither).
Bob Dylan is a real funny guy, compared to him.
I love JM's music, I will keep to buy his records and follow him around Europe but, in my opinion, I won't have the chance to see him in Italy again 'cause I guess he won't come back here.
It's just a sensation, I can't read JM's mind, but I don't think he will miss Italy and, 30 years later his first (and last) italian TV appearence, Italian people (except the fans like me, obviously) won't miss him too.
Who's to blame?